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flexagoon 8 minutes ago [-]
I don't understand why someome capable of self hosting would use a "Canva alternative" instead of something normal like Inkscape/Figma/...
Canva is so bad. It's impossible to align stuff properly. Text rendering is awful. Official builtin templates have horrible kerning. It's genuinely one of the worst graphic editors I've used, and I'm not even remotely a professional designer. I don't want a "Canva alternative", I want a normal editor.
LawrenceKerr 47 minutes ago [-]
Great but imho Canva alternatives that stand a chance should be made API and MCP-first, not just an afterthought.
That's the thing I miss with Canva right now. Yes there are API & MCP options (4 different ways even I think, it's pretty messy), but it's just not sufficient. Ideally you can fully vibe code a poster or a video from the context of your repo, which has all the context and assets, then edit the result online in their point-and-click editor.
rw2 43 minutes ago [-]
100% agree with this. It should be an mcp or a chatgpt plugin
gregglain 17 minutes ago [-]
It's open source.
klrfl 4 hours ago [-]
I was horrified looking at the commit history. The whole project was authored by Claude and it spawned out of a single commit. Really, check it out
I'm pretty sure a good portion of Canva is vibe-coded too. You could argue Canva has tests, QA, etc. But somehow I feel we just tend to associate quality to commercial products.
acley 3 hours ago [-]
:) this is the truth, every single developer I knew moved away from coding by hand every single one.
moooo99 11 minutes ago [-]
Well you don‘t know me, but you can still feel free to count me against your stats
anuragojha2004 53 minutes ago [-]
No-one is writing code anymore tbh
redanddead 47 minutes ago [-]
old workflow is dead
tbf we've been trying to kill it for a long time, look at every dev product ever
acley 3 hours ago [-]
Sorry to break it to you, its from our internal project (only the editor part) which had way less feature. And you should watch commit history of open source projects more often every single one usages Claude/codex, people no longer code by hand its over.
48 minutes ago [-]
LawrenceKerr 50 minutes ago [-]
Pretty standard at this point, especially for non-critical open source projects like this...
dofm 26 minutes ago [-]
"Why people pick Doory"
Is this evidence-based? There's one github issue and six commits.
A lot of what makes Canva stand out comes from its IP coupled to their ecosystem/product (templates, assets and stock photography), its otherwise a pretty simple tool with basic functionality (but with good UX) compared with more professional software like photoshop or illustrator, or Figma. I'm sure you can built an open source equivalent in terms of software, but I don't think it's really possible for open source to produce a true replacement or alternative.
THAT ASIDE, it might be worth focusing on UX. This looks vibe coded, maybe it isn't.
- The UI is broken in a few places (the tools text in the shapes menu)
- Consider prioritising more important tools based on available space in the ui, the header is a bit cluttered.
- Some of the tool menus are awkward to use, like in Canva those are in a side bar and when they open the have panels that don't disappear when their parent looses focus. Probably worth making sure you're not using their exact icons as well as these look pretty similar.
- Your add page button is creating an awkward scroll which you could probably limit by exposing add page in a way that didn't do that. Maybe remove the add page button below the canvas, as you already have an add page button in the bottom left, you should have more vertical space for the design as a result.
- You've got several different export sharing options in the header side by side. Might be worth collapsing that into a menu to minimise clutter. Both tools like canva and more professional tools layout their UIs like this. By all means do don't it just because they are, but there is some rational here why they would.
- There are two places in the header that talk about the save state on the left and the right (one saying saved, the other saying saved in the browser). Consider having consolidating that.
- do you really want to place the copy "Sign up to keep it forever" next to the sign up button? do you have any reason this is likely to stand out from the rest of the UI features there? I reckon if not get rid of it. Or if it's that important get rid of anything competiting for its attention which right now is a lot of things.
- you have a ellipses for a menu with a ton of options, in most software this is aligned to the left. If you've removed other things frmo the the head it may make sense to break that up in submenus so those pieces of functionality is more discoverable.
- Your commment functionality requires sign up to use, keeping it there may help lead to signs ups, but if you're designing this as an open source tool, maybe you're less interested in growth hacking, it might make sense to remove it from the header as well when the user isn't signed in (at the same time keeping it there signals to people weighing up your product that that feature exists.
- you have 2 layers of headers, is it worth utilising horitonzal space for some of your buttons and put them in the right hand side?
Hopefully you can feed the above back into your agent on a loop lol.
dofm 11 minutes ago [-]
This is IMO much more precise, kindly and practical feedback than this product or this announcement really warrants.
Think of the apps you could have written for yourself in the time you spent writing this ;-)
v3ss0n 4 hours ago [-]
fully vibed low effort clone atually. it is now crashing while testing.
danpalmer 3 hours ago [-]
> This looks vibe coded, maybe it isn't
Claude is the author on the commits.
v3ss0n 5 hours ago [-]
So with this future of vibe coded tools , how to choose which one to use?
danpalmer 3 hours ago [-]
AI doesn't change this. Would I rather use some hobby project or the real tool? Depends on my budget and how much I care about functionality/quality – sometimes the hobby project, often the real tool. How long each took to develop is not a factor in my purchasing decision.
vikramkr 3 hours ago [-]
Your own
guidedlight 4 hours ago [-]
The one that is actually supported and not abandoned.
gdulli 3 hours ago [-]
I'm not expecting the people who take the vibecode shortcut to have the discipline and commitment and talent to steward their projects in the manner of the successful ones I've come to trust in the past.
baq 3 hours ago [-]
You can fix bugs you care about piloting a $20 sub in abandoned projects relatively easily.
80fj0348i 3 hours ago [-]
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anonzzzies 3 hours ago [-]
Yeah, I would and do, but many people like shiny and just jump around for some reason. And the ones that have a reason and make products popular overnight, have as reason that they need likes and upvotes as they are influencers.
People who have jobs, lives, other stuff to do in other words, keep sending me 'the latest new bla' many times per day, every day. All products that will be gone tomorrow.
I mean, AI made my own canva because my wife uses it and hates their support, bizarre amounts of long standing critical showstopper bugs and attitude to long standing members. So I hope they do get vibecoded to death, however, I would not release such a project until after a year of testing and fixing, which is where our version is about. Canva in the basis, like Miro etc is a one shot with Opus 5.5: it works fine-ish. But you will need months of grind to get it so people will want to use it.
Edit: in the vibecode age, 2000 commits would be the minimum to consider a project maintained. And then I do have a script to analyse the 'effort' of an average commit because some people fake commits with crap to inflate the number.
colesantiago 4 hours ago [-]
Which one?
There are many too many new projects (OSS and closed) that have AI in them and existing projects (Linux, etc.) that are getting tainted by AI.
I think this is a lost cause.
baq 3 hours ago [-]
Pick the one you like and vibe fix bugs you run into.
This also works with paid closed source software today.
Canva is so bad. It's impossible to align stuff properly. Text rendering is awful. Official builtin templates have horrible kerning. It's genuinely one of the worst graphic editors I've used, and I'm not even remotely a professional designer. I don't want a "Canva alternative", I want a normal editor.
That's the thing I miss with Canva right now. Yes there are API & MCP options (4 different ways even I think, it's pretty messy), but it's just not sufficient. Ideally you can fully vibe code a poster or a video from the context of your repo, which has all the context and assets, then edit the result online in their point-and-click editor.
https://github.com/shaongitbd/doory/commit/eac7e3b
tbf we've been trying to kill it for a long time, look at every dev product ever
Is this evidence-based? There's one github issue and six commits.
THAT ASIDE, it might be worth focusing on UX. This looks vibe coded, maybe it isn't.
- The UI is broken in a few places (the tools text in the shapes menu)
- Consider prioritising more important tools based on available space in the ui, the header is a bit cluttered.
- Some of the tool menus are awkward to use, like in Canva those are in a side bar and when they open the have panels that don't disappear when their parent looses focus. Probably worth making sure you're not using their exact icons as well as these look pretty similar.
- Your add page button is creating an awkward scroll which you could probably limit by exposing add page in a way that didn't do that. Maybe remove the add page button below the canvas, as you already have an add page button in the bottom left, you should have more vertical space for the design as a result.
- You've got several different export sharing options in the header side by side. Might be worth collapsing that into a menu to minimise clutter. Both tools like canva and more professional tools layout their UIs like this. By all means do don't it just because they are, but there is some rational here why they would.
- There are two places in the header that talk about the save state on the left and the right (one saying saved, the other saying saved in the browser). Consider having consolidating that.
- do you really want to place the copy "Sign up to keep it forever" next to the sign up button? do you have any reason this is likely to stand out from the rest of the UI features there? I reckon if not get rid of it. Or if it's that important get rid of anything competiting for its attention which right now is a lot of things.
- you have a ellipses for a menu with a ton of options, in most software this is aligned to the left. If you've removed other things frmo the the head it may make sense to break that up in submenus so those pieces of functionality is more discoverable.
- Your commment functionality requires sign up to use, keeping it there may help lead to signs ups, but if you're designing this as an open source tool, maybe you're less interested in growth hacking, it might make sense to remove it from the header as well when the user isn't signed in (at the same time keeping it there signals to people weighing up your product that that feature exists.
- you have 2 layers of headers, is it worth utilising horitonzal space for some of your buttons and put them in the right hand side?
Hopefully you can feed the above back into your agent on a loop lol.
Think of the apps you could have written for yourself in the time you spent writing this ;-)
Claude is the author on the commits.
People who have jobs, lives, other stuff to do in other words, keep sending me 'the latest new bla' many times per day, every day. All products that will be gone tomorrow.
I mean, AI made my own canva because my wife uses it and hates their support, bizarre amounts of long standing critical showstopper bugs and attitude to long standing members. So I hope they do get vibecoded to death, however, I would not release such a project until after a year of testing and fixing, which is where our version is about. Canva in the basis, like Miro etc is a one shot with Opus 5.5: it works fine-ish. But you will need months of grind to get it so people will want to use it.
Edit: in the vibecode age, 2000 commits would be the minimum to consider a project maintained. And then I do have a script to analyse the 'effort' of an average commit because some people fake commits with crap to inflate the number.
There are many too many new projects (OSS and closed) that have AI in them and existing projects (Linux, etc.) that are getting tainted by AI.
I think this is a lost cause.
This also works with paid closed source software today.